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With Artifact's steam chart's statistics being released is it somewhat worrying to anyone else? 60k peak for a valve game is.......... very very ... Foundtheinternet!r/ArtifactPosts11Postedby4yearsagoWithArtifact'ssteamchart'sstatisticsbeingreleasedisitsomewhatworryingtoanyoneelse? Discussion60kpeakforavalvegameis..........veryverydisappointinginmyopinion.WithaplayerbasethisbigIdoubtArtifactwillbeabletoevercompetewithHSintermsofesports.https://steamcharts.com/app/583950Ican'thelpbutfeelthatArtifactwillendupasoneofthosegamesthatsimplystartswithalowpeakandonlydecreaseinplayerbaseasmonthsgobytilithardlyexists...Likewecanargueallwewantabouttoomanypeoplewhiningaboutmonetizationthefactofthematterisit'snotlookinggoodforthelongevityofthegamefromthegetgo.Overreactionblahblahblahyouexpectnewplayerstocomewithaprogressionandmonetizationmodellikethis?Comeon.49commentssharesavehidereport63%UpvotedLoginorsignuptoleaveacommentLogInSignUpSortby:best level1·4yr.agoIt'salsoValve'sfirstgametobereleasedtomixedreviewsasfarasIknow.9ReplyShareReportSaveFollowlevel2·3yr.agoIt'sthefirstValvegamesinceRicochetthatwasn'tbasedonacommunitymodofanexistingtitle.1ReplyShareReportSaveFollowlevel1[deleted]·4yr.ago·edited4yr.agoIt'stheoutdatedTCGmodelthat'sdoingdamagetothegamewithallthebadreputationit'sgetting.Idon'tknowwhyValvewouldthinkitwouldbeacceptablein2018andespeciallytotheirdedicatedfanbasewhoareusedtotheircustomerfriendlyapproach.EvenWotCismovingawayfromitandtheyhaveanestablishedfanbase.21ReplyShareReportSaveFollowlevel2[deleted]·4yr.agoTheyadvertisedthepay2wintcgmodeltoDotaplayers.Letthatsinkin,ValveexpectedDota2playerstobeonboardwithbeingforcedtospendmoneyonthemarkettobuypowerfulcards.18ReplyShareReportSaveFollowlevel2·4yr.agoWizardscreatedanentirelydifferenteconomysystemforMagicTheGatheringArena,onethatsofarfeelslikeanicemiddlegroundbetweenHearthstone'sgreedandEternal'sgenerosity.Justthinkingaboutthatisinsanethough.YouhaveMagictheGathering,thetopdogofcardgames,afraidofusingthemodelthatValvedecidedwasagreatidea.Showsareallackoffaith.5ReplyShareReportSaveFollowlevel2·3yr.agoThemainissuewiththegameisthattheF2PandP2Parecompletlydisconnectedfromoneanother(withtheexceptionthatyoucanwinafewtickets&packsbylevelingwhichwasintroducedrecently).LiketheentirereasonwhyHearthstoneissopopularandprobablythegameBlizzardgetsmostofit'srevenuefromthesedaysisthatyoucanplayitF2PinordertoplaytheP2Pmode(Arena)orsavethegoldwhichyoucanusetobuypacksfor.AlsotherewardsfortakingpartofArenainHSfeelswaymorerewardingthanitdoesinArtifactbecauseifyouhaveabaddraft/runinphantomdraftyou'llendupwithnothingwhileinHSdoingArenayoualwaysgetapackback+4otherthings,toputthatincontextanarenabuyincost150gand1packinthestore100g(1packhavearealmoneypricetagofaround1.5euro/1.7USDgiveortakeandarenabuyinabout1.7-8euro/2USD).Andwhenhavingagoodruninphantomyouget1-2packswhileinmanyothercasesyou'lljustendupwithatickettogrinditagainandthat'skindofaslapofthefacementallythatendingupwithapositivewinscorejustgivesyoua"hey,youlost3-2nowyougettogrinditagain,HF".HoweverifyouhaveagreatruninHSyougetseveralpacks,greatcards,lotsofgoldtocoverseveralbuy-ins/packsandsoon.Artifactneedsanin-gameeconomythatyoucangeneratebyclearingdailyquests,playingmatchmakinggamesetc.whichthencanbeusedtobuypacks,buy-infortournamentsandsoon.Alsotherewardsfortakingpartinpaidgamemodesshouldbemuchmoreforgivingwhenlosingandrewardingwhenwinning.Theapproachtoamarketplacewithtradablecardsalsobackfired,it'safeaturethatiftheyhadintroduceditproperlywouldhaveputthegamemilesaheadofit'scompetitionandsomethingIthinkallpeoplewhohaveaHSbackgroundlikemereallylikedthataboutthegame.Howevertheideaofhavingcardswithdifferentraritythatdon'tnecessarilyreflectthepowerlevelofthecardandthefacttheywentfrontheconceptofneverbalancingtolovingtheideaaboutbalancingthereallygoodcardswell...Marketcollapsedandnoonelikesunstablemarkets.TL;DR-It'ssadandIhopetheycanfindawaytoturnitallaroundanddon'tgiveuponthegamebecausealmostalltheissuespeoplehavewiththegameisconnectedtothingsotherthantheactualgameplaybecausethattheynailed.1ReplyShareReportSaveFollowlevel1·4yr.agoItwasexpectedbeforeday1.It'saPCgame,andunlikemobilegamers,PCgamersreallyhateP2W(payforpowerfulitems.)YoucanarguethatthegameisP2P,butitreallyisn't.IfthiswasCS:GO,playerbasewouldriotiftheonlywaysyoucangetanM4orAWParelootboxesandmarketplace.11ReplyShareReportSaveFollowlevel2·4yr.agoIjusthadaperfectPhantomDraftrunwithaBloodseeker,Mazzie,KeefeandtwoDebbis.Thegameisn'tP2W,youcanputacompetitivedecktogetherfor$20withoutbuyingAxe,Kanna,Drow,oranyoftheexpensivecards.-4ReplyShareReportSaveFollowContinuethisthread level1·4yr.agoThesenumberscanonlybeexpectedwhenthegamecost$20toeventryout.15ReplyShareReportSaveFollowlevel2Op·4yr.agoExactlymypointthebarriertoentryisalreadystiffwitha20dollarbuyoutandthereisabsolutely0progression,currentlynorankedladder,there'snothingtoplayfor.Foracardgamethat'squitecomplexandquiteclearlyidentifiesasamorecompetitivecardgamecomparedtoothersit'sastonishinghowmanymissingfeaturestherearetoemployanaveragecompetitivegamertocontinuetogrindandplayit....Unlessyou'reokwithpayingmoreafterthatinitial20.10ReplyShareReportSaveFollowContinuethisthread level2[deleted]·4yr.agoIdon'tthinkit'sthe$20pricetag,playerstatisticsaretrendingdown,whichmeansplayersarebuyingthegameandjustnotplayingitafterawhile.8ReplyShareReportSaveFollowContinuethisthread level1[deleted]·4yr.ago·edited4yr.agoItis.Peoplewouldsay,it'sanichegenre.60kisgood.Otherdeveloperswouldkillforthat.Valveisn'tjustanotherdeveloper.TheyareoneofthebiggestnamesinPCgaming.Andthisistheirfirstgamereleasedinyears.Nichetitleornot,thatnamealoneshouldnetdoublewhatwearehavingnow.Andbeforesomeonecomeshereandtellsmethatthegamewouldgrowandmoreplayerswillcomeinlater-Iamnotdenyingthat.Iamnotsayingthegameisdead.Thegamesurelyhasroomsforimprovement.It'snotunheardofforagametoincreaseit'splayerbasegivensometime.WhatI'msayingisasfarascurrentnumbersareconcerned,theyaredefinitelybelowexpectations.AsIhavesaidinanotherthread,let'swaituntilthefirstweekendtojudgethelaunch,andwaitforamonthtojudgetheentirestateofthegame.10ReplyShareReportSaveFollowlevel1·3yr.agosohereweare,Jan06,6Kplayerspeak,thatmeans10timeslowerplayerbase.Valvereallyshouldstopmakingweirddecisionsaboutwhatnichetheywanttobein.4ReplyShareReportSaveFollowlevel1[deleted]·4yr.agoAlotofpeopleinthisforumcanblindthemselvestothereality,butIhopethatValve'snotthatdumb.ThisgameshouldnothavedroppedoutoftheSteamtop10inlessthan48hours,somethinghasgonehorriblywrongandit'stimeforValvetofixitbeforeitistoolate.8ReplyShareReportSaveFollowlevel2Op·4yr.agoIexpectedatleasta100kpeakfromlaunchday.60kiswellbelowmyexpectationsnottomentionanalmost20kpeakdropaftertheinitialday....Thatisveryveryworryingforthelongevity.Andtoallthosewhoadvocateforthisbusinessmodelandwanttomakeitasacompetitivegameaspossiblejustremember.Youresportwon'tbeagoodonewithoutaBIGenoughdedicatedfanbase.I'mnotsayingyouhavetobecomethenextleaguebutyoualsodon'twanttobecomethenextrealmroyaleallhypeanddieddownduetomismanagementandterribledesignchoices.8ReplyShareReportSaveFollowContinuethisthread level1·4yr.agoIt’searly.Especiallyifyouremember,wehavenoideawheretheyplantogowiththemobileapp.Example:Theycouldmaketheappfree,letanyoneplaywithcasualmodesandgiftthemthebasiccards,thentheplayernumberscouldexplode.Thenputoutthebundleof10packsand5eventticketsasaonetimestarteroptionalongwithitfor$10.Theyarestillinpolishmodenow.Noprogression,butit’scoming.Basicsocialfeatures,samedeal.Thebig$$tournamentisalongwayofftoo.Let’swaitandsee.I’moptimisticforthelongrun.4ReplyShareReportSaveFollowlevel2·3yr.agoMarch2019.Dailyplayer'spike:687.Maybewaitfortheverymegalongrun?1ReplyShareReportSaveFollowlevel1·4yr.agoIfyouactuallythinkthatbeingaValvegamechangesthefactthatmostpeoplehavenointerestinacardgame,letaloneanon-F2Pone,youarejustfoolingyourselves.BeingaValvegamethoughensuresthatitwillkeepgettingbetterwithregularupdatesthatwillslowlyattractmanypeoplewhoeitherweren'tinterestedatallatfirstorthatrefundeditonlaunchforwhateverreason.Thegameisgood,isfun,iscompetitive,andthebestisyettocome.It'snotgoingawayanytimesoon.1ReplyShareReportSaveFollowlevel1[deleted]·3yr.agoSohereweare,april6,308playerspeak,thatmeans100timeslowerplayerbase.Congratulationsforpredictingthefuture!1ReplyShareReportSaveFollowlevel1·3yr.agoKudos!thisagedlikefinewine1ReplyShareReportSaveFollowAboutCommunityr/ArtifactArtifact-TheDotaCardGamefromValve43.3kMembers30OnlineCreatedMar25,2014JoinToppostsdecember1st2018Toppostsofdecember,2018Topposts2018helpRedditcoinsRedditpremiumaboutcareerspressadvertiseblogTermsContentpolicyPrivacypolicyModpolicyRedditInc©2022.AllrightsreservedBacktoTop 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